View Full Version : April Article: Biased, Illiberal, Misinformed.....
Danis Kool
04-05-2008, 06:27 PM
My April article about Sydney Poppin scene titled "Biased, Illiberal, Misinformed..... or just plain Ignorant?", the most controversial so far. Check it!
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=3690310&blogID=373887950
If you have myspace leave comments on the blog.... if not then just leave it here.
Thanks
Sup Danis,
Nah, I don't think it was controversial at all...you just said what you had to.
Your last comment? I hope Slick Dog DOES come along, cos straight up he would open up so many minds. Richie Rich too on the locking.
I've only been here 3 months so I've yet to meet these guys talking ish....
Anyways...
Sash
Danis Kool
04-06-2008, 06:13 AM
Thanks Sash.
I already told Josh, about the Slick Dog part. The Slick Dog comment wasnt meant to imply that i would bring him down for Sept event. Definitely in the future, esp if this situation manifests where it splits the community in half.
You seen them at the $5 battle not sure if you them, wait actually you met one of them.
Here is a quote from one of them, when Adrian and Jack did the wave routine thingy... Person A to Person B: "They should lose points for just doing that".... that pretty much sums it up.
See you soon man
I met some of them did I??
Hee hee...well at that event, I was being poilte cos it was my first time....but lawd have mercy if I heard that ish being said...
Well, Australia is not the only place that is suffering from Brainwash...I mean imagine saying "You lose points for that..." WTF is popping a tennis match now???!!!
It just shows that these cats have no concept, no understanding about this dance. That's why I said to you bro- I don't like these contests, cos people mainly are there to pose and get an easy name...
Furthermore, popping itself is a hard dance bro and yet people use it as a throw-away term. You got fools claiming they poppers cos they can do a sloppy wave and roll their ass and say it's boogaloo. C'mon man, you and I both know that it takes practise, understanding and dedication to do this dance....sheet, my lil bro Josh was damn near crippled for two weeks after half and hour popping in Bankstown (lol!)- but see, he now understands what's involved...
To me...a battle is in a circle, in a club where the music is pumping and there's no judges there with clipboards ticking off squares. It's raw. If you wack, then people gonna tell you. That's where you get a chance to unleash yourself and BANG the u@kf out...
...now how many of these trash talking cats have been in that situation?
Shouts out to you Danis and to Josh for looking out for me whenI arrived and being good peoples. Shouts to Popping Jack and Adrian too....just keep repping hard.
Things will change.
See you guys soon.
Sash
Danis Kool
04-06-2008, 11:09 PM
haha, i see you got the net at your place.
Thing is that most of them are pretty dope in terms of skill, technique etc... like i said in the article, its only their narrow mindedness that shits me.
hmm, in terms of battling im not 100% sure... cus i dont go clubs with them haha.
RomeoP0p
04-06-2008, 11:19 PM
think I understand wat u gettin at Sash. I guess anyone can be in a battle at a club.
How far u reakon u can take it tho? like bboys battling poppers etc.
Takes some tactics to outdo them when they pull out backflips and powermoves to get the crowd etc
2(s)hawt
04-07-2008, 05:57 AM
oh lawd...just hearing that...A to B business..
that just gives me more reason to wanna become the dopest waver in the southern hemisphere
sash man we all so grateful you're here in sydney..maybe not everyone is YET..i know your not OG status like you said but thats nothing lol...just through your words and actions really opened me up to what it really means to be a popper.
props to danis to for this article
and adrian/jack for waving on em xD
TETRIS
04-07-2008, 07:27 AM
One of the reasons I made this site was for this kind of ignorance. The EBs did a great job by teaching their foundation and inspiring dancers world wide, but at the same time I feel as they have over shadowed the other OGs/Styles. Most gullible followers believed word by word and they chose to lead with ignorance and thats why you still have people around the globe with that kind of wack mentality~ The scene is already starting to change so hopefully the slower kids that haven't waken up yet can pick up and get their shit straight!
Thanks for the article danis, good read~
inventfmc
04-07-2008, 07:42 AM
You nkow the best answer to all this Danis:
Throw a couple of events where the crowd judges.
I know it seems weird and maybe "unfair." But it shows the boogaloo cats they could use more than just one style. I've been in contests like this and I've beaten bboys with gainers and air flares... haha.
I gotta run to work... but I'll chime in some words soon (being one who was brainwashed at one point......)
RomeoP0p
04-07-2008, 06:14 PM
maybe A said that to B cause my waving was no good...
still workin on it!
^^^
C'mon bro...you're waving is tight...and that's not the point Danis is making either.
As Tetris says- it's about ignorance. And more than that, to be brutal, it's about MONEY and STATUS at the end of the day when you really think about it...
The more you can make people believe what they are doing is "wrong" and that your way is right- then the more you can take from people. I mean, that TV show "so you think you (can"t) can dance" is an example. Who taught those dancers ANIMATION? Cos bwoy, I only seen one decent animator in Sydney- Danis. And yet, whoever did that crap, got a substantial amount from it, plus status, plus work....
And sadly, it's the same worldwide. I can tell you about some heads in Europe, who are absolute frauds and yet they teach locking and popping and put on big events....And people will go to their classes, pay high prices and support these crappy events- cos its ignorance.
And as someone who LOVES this art- it hurts to see this. So I also share your pain and understand your article.
That's why I got so much love for people like Slick Dog, Richie Rich, Flexy, Pakelika etc etc...cos at the end of the day, they are sharing everything with people who are keen to learn the truth. They gave you the truth plain and simple and they give it to you with no strings attached- just straight up LOVE and Passion...but people get mad, cos they realize they've been cheated for years. And as I said before, this dance takes a long time to learn..sheet, I just got back into training after 3 months bro.... and I'm hurting lol!!!!
I'm actually using the neighbours wireless internet right now (LOL) so I gotta bounce before he/she logs out...BUT...I would like to paste the following article written by PAKELIKA (MUCH RESPECT TO YOU)- cos this piece right here is the truth, when it comes to battling...F"@K competitions:
Peace
Sash
WRITTEN BY PAKELIKA ON THE WIGZ FORUM:
.....I been reading certain posts...lately and...
It make..me think....
"pak...give'um some...thoughts to ponder..."
See..some...are...on the right path....becuase ..we...do..learn..from...our....
mistakes......some....have change...their...views...on..certain things...reguarding...styles....and...respect...so I appluad you all....on that...but....to..acknowledge one's mistakes...to self...then...to the ones that know........is astep.....in..true...respect
But most....are still..a..few...streets...away
Contests....are...different than .....battlin
Contests....are...simply put.....contests
You know... when and where...and...how many rounds..ect....
Now.....
Battlin....doesn't require a preset date and time......most are spontanious doesn't...require..a...crowd..or..a..crowd..respou nce....all it takes.....is the look...in one's...eyes.....
Battlin is when...u...persevere to..be twice as dope...becuase you know you have to...
Battlin....is....when....you....school...the..dude ... so bad......his....broad....gets pissed at him...becuase...he's being...embarrassed...so...bad....that she leaves him...cursin him out...and..pass me her...number......and you keep schoolin him until...he leaves the club...very frustrated
And a respected og..... Watches the whole thing....and..tells you...."I haven't seen anything like...that in...(@#%$)..in years(maybe not eva)..... You are the ..."circle killer"
Battlin....is......when...you ...let...them...fill the crowd...with..their...people.....then they come and say lets battle....and...say...."..after I'm done smokin my blunt..."and you school him so bad.....that...they don't even...matter...and tell there boy to stop...becuase...he's embarassin..himself....
Becuase when..they found out who...he was..battlin.....they knew the outcome was bleak...
Battlin....is when...(for you in the industry)..
When ur at an audition...and somebody questions ur soul....and...dance style of choice...and..you don't know the dude..but..you just tell'um" that's cool...if I see you in da club...urdone....and..watch..and see who gets this job....@#%$"
Then you see them in da club....and let him get his...confidence...up...by..wowing the crowd.....then right when he's at the peak...of..thinkin he's the @#%$....you put a whoopin on him...like foreman...did to fraizer.... They stood no chance...becuase my soul will not be denied....
And book the job....
Battlin...is when your...doing...a...video...for one of the top artist...in..pop culture...and they personally ..call...you...to...be...in...their...video.. No audition...and...a...trailor...on the shoot..
And some dude...is callin himself...a..style..that's roots...comes...from....me..and..my...peers..and the ones before us...because they are sayin they invented it... so...during the shoot in front of the artist.... You call this dude out...on his name and supposed style..and let him know ur..serious as @#%$....and tell'um..."lets film it...so..it can be documented...in the...video"and they clamer..under the pressure...becuase...they don't know the art...of battlin.....
And to "musicality"....
I just say most don't believe in their soul.....as....much as i do...mine
Battlin'...requires...skills....and....most important...a....mental.... approach....
Freedom is a state of mind
And
Battlin...is when...the music..or rhythm..is...on(me vs the music)
Battlin....is knowin how to..exploit..the others...weakness...and...make it ..that..their..strength..don't matter...
And they don't effect you at all.....
Becuase they are not in ur...equation..
I believe in ....my...soul...
The true message is in front of ur eyes..
Have a safe and happy holiday
Pakelika
RomeoP0p
04-07-2008, 09:38 PM
Yo I started organizing this last nite. Celebration jam for my 21st b'day at Dancekool. Just music and anyone who rocks up can dance. Gonna play a mix of mostly funk (all types n electro!), sum house and some breaks. This will be an ideal time for some real battles. No set rounds or judges just gonna be dancing!
Sat 26th at night!
Hope it works out.
Lets get buck :p
2(s)hawt
04-08-2008, 05:16 AM
You nkow the best answer to all this Danis:
Throw a couple of events where the crowd judges.
I know it seems weird and maybe "unfair." But it shows the boogaloo cats they could use more than just one style. I've been in contests like this and I've beaten bboys with gainers and air flares... haha.
I gotta run to work... but I'll chime in some words soon (being one who was brainwashed at one point......)
invent!...definitely..we feeling what ur saying here...we ..well the ones over 18...including romeo ..danis ..etc..
we gonna hit up clubs more and just call out everyone lol
i always try and compete in those random mainstream (all-style comps) it really pushes me
Danis Kool
04-08-2008, 06:37 AM
Wasnt Pakelika in Sydney a few months back?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae9TezX7vU0
Tetris:
Thanks for reading me article :)
How would you deal with people with such a mentality (the ignorance one)?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AAAARRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe that I/we missed out on meeting him.......
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.........
pakelika10
04-08-2008, 02:50 PM
.....dont worry sash.......we will be back in the land down under...soon.....it took us over a decade to get there but now.....we will come back ...within the yr....i hear...
gotta have .... vb......soon...lol
Pak!!!
Great news bro- you cheered me up now!..and when you do come back...PLEASE HIT US UP!!!
What's "VB" lol?!
I haven't been here that long myself....!!
Peace
Sash
Danis Kool
04-09-2008, 07:55 PM
Victorian Beer!
RomeoP0p
04-16-2008, 04:42 AM
lol
I actually like VB
The_Ru
04-29-2008, 09:20 PM
"The only reason why i am directing this at the
Humga
12-12-2008, 11:38 PM
"the problem i find with the majority of todays society.. is that they are all sheep... if being a sheep makes you kool..then be a sheep... but if you choose to be different...and go against the grains then expect and accept critism...constructive or not..its going to come your way"
wow. Taken from Dennis's Myspace blog from DJ Libre.
That has just profoundly influenced my thinking.
Hmmm...
What do you guys think of the situation now?
Have people changed? Or do they still say "Waving is for pussies."?
Keru.
12-20-2008, 06:02 AM
Hmmm...
What do you guys think of the situation now?
Have people changed? Or do they still say "Waving is for pussies."?
nope. 'they' is more like one person...
i gotta bounce!
acute
12-27-2008, 02:21 AM
Good read Danis
Keep at the other styles and eventually you'll dominate like funkbox do accross the ditch... the others will either drop off, live in denial and be whack, or, hopefully jump on the bandwaggon and PROGRESS!
That waving is for pussies comment was funny as hell.. but u gotta see whose mouth its comin from.. mr. gangly leg rolls...aka a nobody!
Keep it up man - and hope to meet you cats soon.. i maybe in sydney next month for a day or 2.. maybe!
peace
a
funkbox
Danis Kool
12-28-2008, 02:55 AM
Haha, it was actually from a very well know, very influential person (the exact same person that has caused the current situation in your island as well), and is repeated by his followers.
Your crew mate Mr Z... kinda told me the brief outline. Pity that one of ur crew mates is back in the US.
acute
12-28-2008, 03:17 AM
they'll be immigrating to melbourne next march/april :)
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