advanced techniques

[syphon]

Yeah exactly thats what i am lookin for. Is there any fountain of knowlage i missed ? Some more specific info about botin, isolations and soo on.

For example i did find out by my self that there are movements that fit together and movements that doesnt look good when connected one to each other . Also move connected to arms and legs etc. but its all only what I am thinking and yeah that maybe isnt the best . Are there any helpfull rules (hints) which will make your moves look correct and connected.

Many pros here already but somehow I cant find what am lookin for.

Am really lookin for some good stuff. I really want to get better, but dont want to invent all by myself :)

I will get good anyway but you could short my path ;)

[zohpakrante]

looking for a shortcut, eh bro?

[syphon]

well more than that is to learn to do it how it should be done and you have to learn from the best out there. But only lookin at them will not tell ya core info about particular move ;). I want to invent my own style but before that i have to own fundamentals.

[VINHTERCOURSE]

advance techniques?

the question is, have you mastered the BASICS yet?

IMO what makes a dancers/moves/techniques advance is a complete mastery of the BASICS and forming it into what you want it to do.
and bringing the mastery of different basics together.

if you haven't mastered the basics yet, why bother trying to learn something harder? don't cheat yourself by rushing through any stage, take your time and when you think you have mastered it, you probably haven't. when you feel comfortable with what you are doing, do things you aren't comfortable with, practice on what you can't do and don't feel comfortable doing.

[syphon]

yeah good point vinhter ..maybe what am considering as advance is still basic you know :). I was more aiming for info for some particular moves. I would definitiveli took some workshops buut none here. For example when i saw tutorial about waving it helped me soo much i was able to wave (basic) in a 1-2 weeks. Thats info what am lookin for and yeah its propably still basics :).

[MathisFownk]

my hint is to train basics alot in order to do that shit perfect...
only then add our own style...
and personaly i like to look every position i do to make it look good...
1 more hint is to train hits HARD... it seems to me that in europe every1 hits sooo hard...

[Boppin Tran]

I cannot short your path. But I can tell you that botting is all in the basics, i mean study the basics like crazy and it'll hit you.

[syphon]

Mathis: thats exactly what am doing .. workin on basics 2h a day. Am myself bigest enemy ... am still not satisfied with my hits. Ma bones should crush :D.

Boppin: YO thats the way of the samurai heh and am already doing it but you know am still lookin for some hints and still will be :). But i feel it thats alone path. I just wanted to hear soemtihn whats maybe told on workshops you know like "yeah now when you move thix fix that " etc.

THX for info anyway maybe am not askin right questions but i dont have nowhere else to ask soo ...

[paulywaulywasabear]

its so ironic now. cuuuuuz lotta ppl been trying to do "Advanced" stuff these days (without even learning the basics), that when they go back to "Ground zero" its harder than doing "advanced" popping stuff. the irony is that the basics ARE (or have become) the advanced techniques. thats y popping is so awesome to me: theres a secret art in it.

[WiseGuy]

i agree with pauly the biggest illusions come from very clean "basic styles" thats why u see OGs getin down and kill it because they have mastered basic styles for i.e. Flat top and slow motion.... i think u have a better chance of finding an og in person to get the kinda info/help ur lookin for

[acute]

For me the first step to being more advanced after basic fundamentals revolved alot around the following

be 3d instead of 2d
- dont move left to right all the time.. up down, left right, forward back, diagnonal .. combine all of these etc... If you stand still and hold your right arm straight and keep it in the same spot move you body and legs ONLY around it. Learn cobra, and learn to break down your cobra.

know that your legs and body are the biggest parts of you
- As above, having your right arm out but moving other parts of you, namely your body/shoulders you can make the same position look different everytime just by slight adjustments in your bigger body parts.

Give as many parts of your body a mind of their own as possible
- Each body part you can think of should be able to move independantly of the others.. left shoulder, right leg, right arm, tilt head, push out chest, right shoudler, push in chest etc.. this leads to stuff like head misdirection and things

Footwork
- Can also totally flip 1 move into 100 moves.. heal toe ads more dimension to step infront, step to the side etc... see wigz vol. 2

thats from the top of my head anywayz.

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