Who really created this so called gangsta style?

[dizzrockn]

Now dont get miss informed by this yall...this is not to take any credit away from G-style as a crew or slick dogg or anyone im just here to expose the real in this popping game, yeah i said it (POPPING GAME NOT FUNKSTYLE GAME!!!! POPPING OR POP'N YOU KNOW LIKE SNAP, CRACKLE, POP!!!..DIZZROCK'N THE MAN TO BRING YOU THE FIRST BRS FOOTAGE POSTED ON YOUTUBE!!!THE GUY WHO MADE YOU RECOGNIZE THE BAY!!! AND KEPT MY MOUTH SHUT N LET THE FOOTAGE SPEAK FOR IT SELF!!!!.. here it goes playas...I sit back, mess wit some of you on here, watch battles, talk head, give compliments, sometimes critisize wutever its all love but i watch this shit and say to my self hmmmm why are all these different guys and crews taking credit for all this shit???? y dont i stand up and say somthing? hmmm i know my history, i know where this shit really came from???? y dont i ever say anything, i see people using are shit all day every day and dont say nothing,,,, jus sit back and watch footage and say wow thats ours, thats ours and oh yea thats ours 2 lol oh well thats the way it goes huh well not no more playas haha!!!!! did you know that everyone of you poppers out there have done something that started with a man named Play Boy Rob????? this man was so ahead of his time its rediculous!!!!!!!!! all that liquid, tutting, tick walking, waving over the head waving your bill of your hat, ticking it, flying tuts,threading in and out of waves behind the back under the legs, that was all started with this guy!!!!....can i preach??? ok!!!He had such high street cred that BOOGALOO SHRIMP came to San Jose california and called out PLAY BOY ROB at the EGYPTION LOVER CONCERT on the mic in front of thousands..from what i heard it went down in a major way.....ICE T, EVIL-E...an other big names were there also...i wasnt even born yet haha, wish i was but anyway back to my rant.. there were lots of other groups from here( S J), to many to name but heres some history for your ass... the dudes that ROB learned from were a Samoen group by the name of the "Puppatrons" alot of the playboyz style trickles down from them....these dudes could wave, hit, and strut harder then anybody!!!! just imagine it!! 8 big ass samoen crips in perfect formation hit'n hard as hell and struttin san jo style flawless 3D ticking and such!!!!!!!!!wooooo! wish i could go back in time.. The nastiest poppers from San Jose( ALLAN JACOBS EASTSIDETICKATEERS RIP,SEFA PUPPATRONS RIP,OGGI FISHER RIP,PLAYBOY ROB RIP, all victims of murder out here on these SAN JOSE STREETS..sad stories i could get into detail but im not goint to,, it might make some of you lil wanna b's quit poppin.... i was trippin when i first heard of frantick and slick and tempo and all these dudes,,,, i was like dang these dudes got real similar style to us and thats dope cuz when i got back into poppin in 2003 i relized that the game had changed majorly!!everywhere i looked someone was doing boog...it seemed as the realness of poppin was twisted and turned into this kinda of a gay fem dance and poppin from the begining was never like that, wether you came from LA, PAMONA, the BAY Fresno wutever.. poppin was a hood dance...and jus so no one twist my words there is a hood way to do boog for instance look at slim boogie,n my man ronstopable, and others there are many boog dancers i love to watch and if i missed anybody dont take it personal they were the first to come to mind... we (playboyz inc.)went to the first htwww in 03 and got disqualified because we used a switch blade in our skit for the prelims(by the way are routines were all over everyone... maybe thats y hmmmm could it be?? any way money b battled everyone in a cypher that shit was hella sick yall!!! i mean everyone!!! from what i remember all the dudes that were trying to get a piece of B were tempo, slick dogg, mad chad, boppin andre, ledgend, and some others i dont remember everyone but it was at least 6 dudes from LA and B was taking them all on, my boy J5 was there he seen the whole thing!!!!!!! speak on it J5 let these niggas know wut time it is...haha...my main goal is to let all you poppers know where alot of your stuff that you do came from not trying to call anyone a biter or any shit like that just want to relay the history to yall cuz its easy to get mislead in this game...and we do have the footage of that imfamous circle where it was money b vs everyone htwww 03 so if u want that up let your boy know!!!! I gotta find it though..Again not to take anything away from G style as a crew...... but just shedding some light on yall letting you know where that real GANGSTA STYLE whearing bandanas around the face wit lokes came from.............peace.....and im willing to answer Q's if anyone has any let me know... this history goes way back and we aint never changed!!!! we been poppin like this from day one yall!!!! and thats real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know this clip sais 83 but its really Church's Chicken battle in SF 1982.. 2 whole years b4 break'n 1 mind you and years back then in the popping game were like decades as far as progress goes you feel me......

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[paulywaulywasabear]

hey dizzy! thats pretty crazy how that clip u posted is in '82! i found this old school clip of money b

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and i was just wondering if that clip was around the same time around the 80s? im guessing early 90s but thats still pretty old. correct me if im wrong about the date!

and props to san jose/playboyz! i really like what u guys do!

[prawko]

Wow, didn't know Money-B and J-Rawk were bro's. My first b-boy tape had a battle w/ J-Rawk battling Wicket, that changed my life forever. His threads were ahead of his time.

Anyways, thanks for the insight/clips!

[dizzrockn]

Originally Posted by paulywaulywasabear

hey dizzy! thats pretty crazy how that clip u posted is in '82! i found this old school clip of money b

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS4f0fDApdM

and i was just wondering if that clip was around the same time around the 80s? im guessing early 90s but thats still pretty old. correct me if im wrong about the date!

and props to san jose/playboyz! i really like what u guys do!

thanks for the props brotha, that clip would be from the mid 90's i hated B back then cuz he would always try to school me on stuff... he would say ur floats are nasty kid but ur floating every time u come out and i didnt want to here that lol but i have learned alot from him man he's laced ur boy wit so much game its amazing... now i wanna lace all you up... not only was San Jose ahead of there time in popping but also in breaking!!!!! the stuff u seen in 83 and 84 in the movies like break'n and beatstreet wasnt shit compared to wut people were doing in san jose as far as breaking goes as well!!!!! peep this footage from 1984 chuckie cheese battle from side walk breakers a crew that money-b was also in the early to mid 80's up into the 90's

[dizzrockn]

Money-B comes out rite here to hes much skinnier though haha
enjoy history playas............

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[dizzrockn]

Originally Posted by paulywaulywasabear

hey dizzy! thats pretty crazy how that clip u posted is in '82! i found this old school clip of money b

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS4f0fDApdM

and i was just wondering if that clip was around the same time around the 80s? im guessing early 90s but thats still pretty old. correct me if im wrong about the date!

and props to san jose/playboyz! i really like what u guys do!

yea theres another battle from that same day that you guys would love to see!!!!! Money-B vs Mr. Re Air Force Crew....dont even trip once i get my hands on all this stuff its going up

[fromthetown]

I feel like any tutting that is more advanced than just the basic "King Tutt" moves is built on shit that came outta San Jo'. I remember some of the battles between cats from the east bay and San Jo. I remember first seeing crazy tutts with dimension and intricacy from cats in your city.

And I know Shrimp came to the bay a lot with those rap tours and was always getting at fools cuz he loved the style, so I'm sure the Playboy Rob history is on point.

Very few crews kept their bloodline alive the way Playboyz did. That's why the younger gen, like you, still has the bay flavor when you go.

I had the same shocking experience when I saw everyone doing boog style. Not that I'm against it or anything but since cats in the bay didn't bust like that, i just never liked it. And even though a lot of people in the bay called the "dance" over all boogaloo, boog style was called LA style. I remember when I first found out cats were still popping about 4 or 5 years ago it was crazy, I mean CRAZY to see everyone doing boog. And then people thought you was crazy if you said that the shit came from the bay.

People still try to portray original bay area dance as primitive. They think it was just Fillmore when it was barely that. San Jose was absolutely innovating from the jump. It's too bad you dudes don't get out there more as far as repping the dance. I know cats got kids and jobs, and I know the dance ain't about "contests" or whatever, but you and Money B are top shelf. It'd be good for kids to see ya'll bust.

Thanks for the history, homie.

[flpmd2000]

Thanks for the long ass post Dizz hahah.

But on the real I want to make sure no one reads into this wrong cuz Playboyz got love for all styles and all people. What my man is really trying to get across is the fact that there is a lot of history in the Bay that even the EBs (who we got mad love for) would tell you about. Money B and others have mad knowledge of the crews that came out of San Jose and how they influenced many styles like waving, tutting, ticking, etc. Also, Playboyz were the only crew outside of the San Francisco and East Bay areas to be accepted as strutters. They had their own way of strutting and mixing everything together.

Again we got love for all and we're not necessarily trying to get our 15 seconds of fame, but when people give credit about this culture we now deem "popping" learn the history and don't forget about everyone involved.

It's not true for everyone, but trust that people in the Bay got love for the Fresno styles and groups (like EBs) too and I know they got love for us. These are the areas where it started so BIG UPS and keep it spreadin worldwide!

[dizzrockn]

Originally Posted by flpmd2000

Thanks for the long ass post Dizz hahah.

But on the real I want to make sure no one reads into this wrong cuz Playboyz got love for all styles and all people. What my man is really trying to get across is the fact that there is a lot of history in the Bay that even the EBs (who we got mad love for) would tell you about. Money B and others have mad knowledge of the crews that came out of San Jose and how they influenced many styles like waving, tutting, ticking, etc. Also, Playboyz were the only crew outside of the San Francisco and East Bay areas to be accepted as strutters. They had their own way of strutting and mixing everything together.

Again we got love for all and we're not necessarily trying to get our 15 seconds of fame, but when people give credit about this culture we now deem "popping" learn the history and don't forget about everyone involved.

It's not true for everyone, but trust that people in the Bay got love for the Fresno styles and groups (like EBs) too and I know they got love for us. These are the areas where it started so BIG UPS and keep it spreadin worldwide!

listen here shit head when i want u to come n side bust my post ill tell you
lol i think i said it all...made my self crystal clear enough bro but thanks anyway lol

[DocLock]

Thanks Dizz for putting that out there! Adds to my whole basis and preachings on "there's MORE THAN ONE."

Cholos from SF's MISSION, San Jose, Antioch, Pittsburg. Richmond, even Fremont were ALL getting down to strutting and locking back in the day and I'm TALKING 70's!!

It was CHOLO gang bangers that walked up to me stopping/asking me "where you from vato??" but in a menacing way.

Had it not been for the boom box they were carrying, my ass would've been stabbed for walking in the "wrong" barrio. That boom box changed the conversation to "you got some jams?" "WHAT?? YOU STRUT ESE??"

The rest is history....and I'm alive to tell it.

[Robotron]

lol

[musashi]

i miss poppin power moves... that two man worm was pretty crazy

[Rashaadhp]

Dizzy thank you for that post man...Insightful for real...Ever since I had moved to the Bay it was an eye opening experience for me to live in the birth place of the styles we love so much...I didn't get a chance to spend alot of time under any OG specifically and learn...But from what i could feel walking down 3rd street some time or driving to the wharf to watch Harry Berry and talk with him and drive down south to San Jose I could just feel the presence of alot of history and stories to be told. I grew up in NYC and didnt begin popping until 2003 when I moved to DC area...But even in NYC with Bboying and Electric Boogie you can feel the energy in the streets as you walk around...This is how I picked up alot of the Bay area Swag so to speak and it def helped that my lady is from Hunters Point.

Damon Frost spoke to me about the infamous battle between Playboy Rob and Shrimp when he was here...Him and Taco he said were watching it together and were dying watching the battle...I wish I could have been around to see that too....There are so many stories to be told...For Ryan and I we are true students of the guys that passed on movement to our mentor Junious " House " Brickhouse...A group from Denmark called Out Of Control with Mr Steen, Special Efx, Locksmith...and there teachers are Damon Frost and Anthony "T-Root" Edwards....So many folks contributed to this dance style...Again I thank you Dizzy for telling some stories of Playboyz...I hope we can share the floor with you brothas soon...Peace!!!

Rashaad,
Assassins DC
Warriors of Light

[Nikodemus]

Yo! That Old School clip of Vic and Rob was nasty! Haven't seen that one before, thank you.

I got a question though, when did the term popping come into San Jose, as I thought people used to say "Strut", as I remember people telling me, lemme see you strut! And that wasn't even that long ago, maybe 1999. Don't get me wrong, other people said popping too, but I did hear that from some people around the Bay.

On another note, Jr Boogaloo always talks about how they used to call it strutting, when he was doin' it in the Bay as well, back when he was called "Jr Strut" haha.

I know its all terminology and what not, but some terms reffer to certain techniques that others don't so, I guess clearing some of that up could help...maybe not...

[dizzrockn]

Originally Posted by Nikodemus

Yo! That Old School clip of Vic and Rob was nasty! Haven't seen that one before, thank you.

I got a question though, when did the term popping come into San Jose, as I thought people used to say "Strut", as I remember people telling me, lemme see you strut! And that wasn't even that long ago, maybe 1999. Don't get me wrong, other people said popping too, but I did hear that from some people around the Bay.

On another note, Jr Boogaloo always talks about how they used to call it strutting, when he was doin' it in the Bay as well, back when he was called "Jr Strut" haha.

I know its all terminology and what not, but some terms reffer to certain techniques that others don't so, I guess clearing some of that up could help...maybe not...

yo wut up nicko...to be honest the first time i heard of strutting was from Harry so i only knew of popping until i met him, he would never use the word popping though...he would either call it robotin hit'n or struttin...then again i was pretty much in the dark as far as San Jose popping went as well the only thing i could do b4 i met harry was ticking ,waving ,glides, tuts...i knew of money-b and tommy but had not worked with them or tlked with them till after i was studying under harry a couple years so as far as i know they used the word popping in refering to the dance and strutting in refering to the routines and of course harry schooled me on that fillmore...