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Old 06-13-2010, 06:04 AM
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Old 06-13-2010, 06:10 AM
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yep i wanted to post this too... but tell me who won? (in judge meaning of course)
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Old 06-13-2010, 07:59 AM
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salah & greenteck won the prelims.

WDC Poppin Final
1st: Rashaad&Future VS SALAH & GREENTECK
2nd: Let's Boogie Taiwan VS Former Action
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:16 AM
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Salah & greentek won the prelim battles :
1st, VS Budusha,
then VS Let's boogie Japan

The day after (Sunday 13th), they won against Assassins,
and lost in finals against Former action.


This whole ivent was interesting, coz it showed those Japanese clones that there are other ways of dancing (for those who've been travelling here, you know what i'm talking about).

Salah, at his final speech, said to them
"I brought Green with me to show you other popping styles. We come here every year, and we see people dancing always the same. If you don't find your own ways, your scene is gonna die".

We've just uploaded their battle against Let's Boogie on facebook for those who're interested. Green litterally KILLED Ryuzy hahaha

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/v...v=398976892638

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Old 06-13-2010, 11:34 AM
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Yo, I understand what Salah means, but I completely disagree with him on the last part...Japan's Scene is one of the strongest in the world, if not THE strongest, and is in no way going to fall off (even if they don't add any other styles). Salah is a good friend to me, and I respect his views, but that last part is not true at all.

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Old 06-13-2010, 01:44 PM
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Damn Salah and Green getting grimey and in your face.. Thats major battle mentality. I like that..
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Old 06-13-2010, 02:21 PM
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Another one

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Old 06-13-2010, 05:23 PM
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Dont fall for the hype...Ryuzy was a better dancer, much better. Green had way more swag, which is important but doesnt outweigh skills...swag is an added bonus, and at some point as a dancer you need to find your own swag...but skills come first. Ryuzy is more skilled technically. Salah's second round was ridiculous....I laughed out loud with tears in my eyes for about 5 minutes. He did a kick-up into a W....that was crazy. But the Ryuzy and Greene match-up...Ryuzy took it.

I really respect Green, he is nasty, talented, and real...but dont hype him up so much too early...let him earn his stripes...thats what he's doing. That first round, Ryuzy smoked him. It was the Salah against Loko-Yoko (that girl is hard too!) match up that won the battle...Salah won his rounds (the first one not so much..but Salahs second round was murder and made up for the first). They also had a routine...which sealed the deal.

Dope battle, props to Salah for bringing Green to Japan...Green is just going to keep getting better and better.

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Old 06-13-2010, 05:40 PM
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Those battles were fire! green is movin up quick since BAM7 sheeet
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:03 PM
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Is it me or does Budusha look like weaker clones of Former Action?
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:12 PM
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What's your definition of skill Mr.Jrock. Because if you're talking about greens technicallity he's had that down since 2008, with his clip against stickman. Floor, angles, body positioning, groove, levels, range, musicallity you name it. His foundation if phenomenal. He's on hype for a reason, he's been top dog. Just never exposed overseas.
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:34 PM
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Yo, I understand what Salah means, but I completely disagree with him on the last part...Japan's Scene is one of the strongest in the world, if not THE strongest, and is in no way going to fall off (even if they don't add any other styles). Salah is a good friend to me, and I respect his views, but that last part is not true at all.


You see, that's interesting that all the dancers who live here, or who very often come here, completely have the opposite point of vue.

I agree with you if you speak in terms of money, they have the hugest scene. But this is only material strength.
In terms of originality, freedom of creativity, etc, Japan is the fuckin WEAKEST country in the world, and I am not a personne who only comes here 2 weeks every two years...
They are famous for being like that in ANY areas of life. Fashion, business, arts, etc.

And you see, that's also another interesting point that the few dancers who were at the event and who had been living abroad for a while (mainly New York), all agreed on this point.

Btw, ask old battle organizers, like Kuroma, they'll tell you that Japan's scene is slowly dying

But again, Japan is far away, and is a country fully stereotyped, so people easily think that they are the dopest dancers in the world. I say NO. The dopest scenes are the US and Montreal, period.

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Ryuzy is more skilled technically.


IMO, It takes a few seconds to see that what Green does is waaaaaay cleaner. What Ryuzy does is like jumping around, keeping the same intensity for the whole round... Although I gotta admit that his first round is dope.

I think Green is more clever in what it does. It's clean, plus he adds variation. He is up, down, waving, tutting, left, right. Plus, he adds that swagg and the battle moves when he virtually kills Ryuzy.


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I really respect Green, he is nasty, talented, and real...but dont hype him up so much too early...let him earn his stripes...thats what he's doing.


Are you saying here that he needs to be seen more on the scene to be allowed to win?
A dancer wins because he is better on the spot, period.

Again, nobody is hype or whatever, he is just way better.
His shit is CLEAN, which is a criteria Japanese people have NO clue about. Look at Lokoyoko's round. Her balance is awful. She was about to fall 2 times during her round.

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Old 06-13-2010, 10:35 PM
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Is it me or does Budusha look like weaker clones of Former Action?
Hahaha, they are their students, and friends, so I think you're quite right ;P
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Old 06-13-2010, 11:48 PM
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I was talking about the last part of Salah's words, referring to the Japanese popping scene would-be dying, not about the rest of it. I was not referring to the things like originality, creativity, etc...those are a much larger topic I would not want to talk about by typing

I know Kuroma, and I have spoken with him about the Tokyo dance scene. He says it is similar to LA, much more like "Hollywood" where the dancers (not specifically poppers) are only into things that are in "the moment"...

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Old 06-14-2010, 02:32 AM
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IMO, It takes a few seconds to see that what Green does is waaaaaay cleaner. What Ryuzy does is like jumping around, keeping the same intensity for the whole round... Although I gotta admit that his first round is dope.

Well, actually it may just look like jumping around to you, but until you try to do it you wont realize just how hard it is to "jump around". Rule #1 in dance is make the hard moves look easy, and the easy moves look hard! Ryuzy has some very skilled Scarecrow style spins, fast clean scarecrow arms, and leg work and rolls, turn and pivots. Those are not easy to look full, fast, clean, and smooth like that. I admit, he got this from Gucchon...but it solid high level technique. Green's is more simple...but done very, very well...his timing and presentation is 100%. So he's making the easy stuff look hard...so they're both right.

I think Green is more clever in what it does. It's clean, plus he adds variation. He is up, down, waving, tutting, left, right. Plus, he adds that swagg and the battle moves when he virtually kills Ryuzy.

I agree. You dont always need battle moves to win, but Japan needs to take note of that more. Acky for example knows how to battle.




Are you saying here that he needs to be seen more on the scene to be allowed to win?
A dancer wins because he is better on the spot, period.

Actually, Green has more "hype and name" right now over Ryuzy. Its important to recognize young talent and support dudes like Green like Salah is doing. At the same time, we have to be careful not to blow them up, let them grow at their pace. He might be more talented than Ryuzy...but not as polished yet.

Again, nobody is hype or whatever, he is just way better.
His shit is CLEAN, which is a criteria Japanese people have NO clue about. Look at Lokoyoko's round. Her balance is awful. She was about to fall 2 times during her round.
Japanese are suuuuupppppeeeeer clean. I wouldnt judge the Japanese off of Loko Yokos rounds...she was trying to match Salahs energy...which is hard to do. Acky is one of the cleanest Poppers in the world!

Actually most Japanese poppers are too technical, and too clean, they need funk, swagg, and substyles. IMO.
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