Thank You Video to Waackers at Homeland Jam 2010

[Centrifugal.Frce]

A special thank you video for all the waackers who came out to Homeland Jam 2010. We appreciate all of you and for inspiring the community!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6y9H1vQ7E

video shot and edited by Juan "Kool Skull" Larrazabal and Calvin "Centrifugal Force" Leung

[Excalibur]

I wanna learn how to WAACK so badly! the problem is , with that and vogueing the community is there but noone wants to put up a tutorial > , I've even asked people i knew to be waackers to put up tutorials and they did nothing (didn't even respond) . since u know some can u aks them for me?

[VINHTERCOURSE]

Peep this, in case you didn't know waackin actually came from the GAY scene of LA. The history runs deep, tutorials online will not really help you if you want to learn this dance.

Youtube is nice to share clips, but if you want to learn this dance do yourself a favor and seek out people in person!! (take class or privates)

If you are in the LA area, seek out Ana Sanchez...

actually if you are in southern california there are some Classes coming up for Ana Sanchez that you can peep...

CLICK LINK below for CLASS INFO
http://www.facebook.com/?sk=events#!...31474233550539

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(yes that is a young poppin pete)

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[VINHTERCOURSE]

peep!!!

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[soajsaid]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

I wanna learn how to WAACK so badly! the problem is , with that and vogueing the community is there but noone wants to put up a tutorial > , I've even asked people i knew to be waackers to put up tutorials and they did nothing (didn't even respond) . since u know some can u aks them for me?

where do you live? in LA there are waacking crews and classes, same thing in NYC. there are a lot of discrepancies right now in terms of what is proper waacking technique, so i'm sure if someone put up a video that purported to teach waacking properly, people would be critiquing it left and right. there actually are voguing demos online from people like aus and javi where they show a substyle...

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but honestly, when it comes to styles like vogue and waacking, it isn't super PHYSICALLY challenging (granted, dips are really hard, and waacking takes endurance to do a full freestyle solo) unlike popping where you have to train your body to do hits, animation, ticking, etc.. you could probably get how to hold your arm out at a certain angle, fan your hand, or do a simple waack in a matter of minutes. but it's more about the feel, the attitude, and that's something that is hard to teach on youtube....the best waackers and voguers are the ones that are "fierce" and project. the best learning experience for vogue and waacking is to be at a club with voguers and waackers, to go at it in a circle, etc..

anyways, there are classes so try to take some in the meantiiiime.

[VINHTERCOURSE]

"you could probably get how to hold your arm out at a certain angle, fan your hand, or do a simple waack in a matter of minutes. but it's more about the feel, the attitude, and that's something that is hard to teach on youtube"

sorry I have to stop you there. Theres a lot more to waacking then holding your arm at a certain angle. And you can't learn it within a matter of minutes either. Thats like someone saying on yeah you can learn how to bot within a matter of minutes if you just stop and move really slowly.

I agree with the feeling and attitude (but a lot of dances that is true), but waacking technique is definitely not something you can learn within minutes. !

-Vinh

[VINHTERCOURSE]

btw vogueing is a VERY physical dance. Not physical like doing power moves it is in bboying, but physical in the sense that it has to be highly train to do some of the stuff they do, and its not just in the dips.

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you can't just randomly do that stuff and expect to

1) pull it off
2) not hurt yourself


popping is of course very physical too...but so is waackin...etc...

[dnoi]

if you'd like to see the footage from the jam, poppin, lockin, waackin, robot, etc.

go to my friend's youtube page, he is in the process of uploading it ALL

his channel is "ronzone01"

www.youtube.com/ronzone01

just go to the "uploads" and sort by "date added"

enjoy! and thank you Ronzone!

[soajsaid]

Originally Posted by VINHTERCOURSE

"you could probably get how to hold your arm out at a certain angle, fan your hand, or do a simple waack in a matter of minutes. but it's more about the feel, the attitude, and that's something that is hard to teach on youtube"

sorry I have to stop you there. Theres a lot more to waacking then holding your arm at a certain angle. And you can't learn it within a matter of minutes either. Thats like someone saying on yeah you can learn how to bot within a matter of minutes if you just stop and move really slowly.

I agree with the feeling and attitude (but a lot of dances that is true), but waacking technique is definitely not something you can learn within minutes. !


-Vinh

oh i know, lol. i study waacking, and am in The Waackers.

my point is that the movement itself is deceptively easy because unlike, say, the muscle control that takes awhile to develop for poppin (it took me about a year to train my muscles to animate), you are learning a seemingly "easy" arm motion. this could be done on youtube, a demo. with vogue, a basic vogue warm up (archie does this in every class) is a simple placing of the arms and wrists at 90 degree angles. sooo deceptively easy, and something that someone could probably throw on a youtube vid.


what i'm saying is that there is so much more to the movement, a feel, an attitude, that adds a flare to what would otherwise be you simply moving your hands and arms around your head. in vogue, a place is more than a place of the hand. there's an energy you have to exude to make a "simple" motion project. you can teach someone online to place their arms directly in front of them while walking for classic old way, or show them how to fan their hand, but it's more than that. waacking technique, endurance, etc. definitely is challenging -- my point was that the most important element of waacking/vogue is difficult to translate to youtube viewers in a demo...the fierce quality!


hope that makes sense. as someone who has studied both dance styles, i will be the first to note that the dance styles aren't easy -- but i think the really hard part doesn't come from the actual movement, but from the essence you have to have when you perform the styles.



(oh and absolutely about vogue being physical...what i mean is that you could do a technically sound vogue solo with simple poses -- it doesn't demand intense physicality like say bboying does, but of course those elements...shablams, splits, heel stretches, etc...add a great dynamic.)

[Excalibur]

Originally Posted by soajsaid

oh i know, lol. i study waacking, and am in The Waackers.

my point is that the movement itself is deceptively easy because unlike, say, the muscle control that takes awhile to develop for poppin (it took me about a year to train my muscles to animate), you are learning a seemingly "easy" arm motion. this could be done on youtube, a demo. with vogue, a basic vogue warm up (archie does this in every class) is a simple placing of the arms and wrists at 90 degree angles. sooo deceptively easy, and something that someone could probably throw on a youtube vid.


what i'm saying is that there is so much more to the movement, a feel, an attitude, that adds a flare to what would otherwise be you simply moving your hands and arms around your head. in vogue, a place is more than a place of the hand. there's an energy you have to exude to make a "simple" motion project. you can teach someone online to place their arms directly in front of them while walking for classic old way, or show them how to fan their hand, but it's more than that. waacking technique, endurance, etc. definitely is challenging -- my point was that the most important element of waacking/vogue is difficult to translate to youtube viewers in a demo...the fierce quality!


hope that makes sense. as someone who has studied both dance styles, i will be the first to note that the dance styles aren't easy -- but i think the really hard part doesn't come from the actual movement, but from the essence you have to have when you perform the styles.



(oh and absolutely about vogue being physical...what i mean is that you could do a technically sound vogue solo with simple poses -- it doesn't demand intense physicality like say bboying does, but of course those elements...shablams, splits, heel stretches, etc...add a great dynamic.)

Yeah problem is I live on the east coast. in West Mass where there's nothing! I wanna go to NY soon, I know about the attitude and feel part, that fierceness that you have to s how that you mean business. I saw the waackers website looks good, Well i know there's prob's diff styles but I just dont' have the technique and moves to carry the attitude the attitude and feel is the main reason i wanna learn both cause it's like an energy i don't get from other dance styles and it's AWESOME!, Since you study both can you put up tutorials on waacking even if people will criticize left and right, I really don't care i just would be grateful to know one way of waacking.

P.s since you studied vogue can you tell me how to get my spins more spinny? Like I can dip and all fine but i can't get the spin right so the dip can look more dramatic.

[VINHTERCOURSE]

hey excalibur, if you go to NY for waackin you can take class with either archie burnett or alyssa (highly recommended)

and of course NYC is the king of vogueing...lemme know if you need the info, I can put you into contact with them or the classes!

-Vinh

[soajsaid]

Originally Posted by Excalibur

Yeah problem is I live on the east coast. in West Mass where there's nothing! I wanna go to NY soon, I know about the attitude and feel part, that fierceness that you have to s how that you mean business. I saw the waackers website looks good, Well i know there's prob's diff styles but I just dont' have the technique and moves to carry the attitude the attitude and feel is the main reason i wanna learn both cause it's like an energy i don't get from other dance styles and it's AWESOME!, Since you study both can you put up tutorials on waacking even if people will criticize left and right, I really don't care i just would be grateful to know one way of waacking.

P.s since you studied vogue can you tell me how to get my spins more spinny? Like I can dip and all fine but i can't get the spin right so the dip can look more dramatic.

pull up when you spin to center yourself if you are turning on one foot. turns are difficult to master, but pulling up and spotting helps a ton. whenever you turn, focus on staying centered and pulling your center upwards; don't lean.